My Rightward development began with a loathing of chavs. I saw them as symbols for the utter desecration of this once-great nation. I read every Theodore Dalrymple article I could find, for clues as to their provenance & nature.
For years I equated England with either chavs or materialist Mondeo Men. I have since met very decent working class types but they tend to stand out as exceptional. In 2024 they are like inexplicable stone monoliths from some earlier civilisation.
I agree, and have said it for a while now. Our old social contracts are broken. A new one has been written, and we were not included.
I don't think that means we as a people are gone. However we are impotent in nearly every way, and a strong wind could destroy us. I think I see a storm on the horizon ....
I'm not black pilled though, nor a doomer. We will lose land, nations, and people. We will not lose the essence of what makes us different from the other races though. That nobility will arise again - indeed, the lone man fighting a crowd of foreigners, or the lone man defending a random woman, he is just one of the first to step up.
It has to get much worse before it gets better, and we will lose much between now and then.
As my name suggests I'm a Welshman, but I feel of Wales roughly as I feel of Christianity; whatever it once was it is no longer a hopeful vessel. I don't despise it for failing, but what was good in it must be reformed into something new which will not have quite the same shape. I can, for example, see some new birth from Celtic people, but not the survival of each historical nation.
You're right to deny doomerism. My hope is to put my efforts in future into serving the prospect I described in the article; how do we make the individuals which make (or serve) the family lines that will make the new people.
You are thinking about an important issue which very few of us are thinking about today. Most are either dooming out, sticking their heads in the sand, or being very radical. I think we have an amazing tapestry to pull from - my forefathers have been in America for a considerable amount of time yet they never turned from their ancestral heritage, and until quite recently my family dwelt in a heavily Scots populated area of Texas. We retained this identity until it no longer served us - however, it is serving me now, for I have connected with large amounts of folkish people both in America and overseas, and these folks are largely wholesome and traditional. I agree concerning Christianity, and although I do profess to be a pagan, I argue that it is best to have a living faith, not a dead faith purely tied to dead mean and dead things. We should not throw away the tapestry - but we need to clean the threads, fix the holes and tears, and honestly we need to add to it, and fast!!
Not to say this is a solution, but it is a personal tribal/clannish respite, and it has given me a platform to think and speak about the exact issue you are talking about - ethnogenesis. We were once distinct tribes and branches of tribes, but the "melting pot" is destroying us, turning us into something men like you and I despise. How long will this go on?
Sir, you likely have a chance in this life to shift a small amount of noble minds towards something greater. That is the true gift of the bard, for we are geared towards speaking to those noble aristocrats. They are not gone. They are just weak. I have sought some out, and I will keep seeking them out - I am young, and since I am already thinking this way, I am very hopeful! Older men are perhaps on the same page, and my peers who exceed me in areas may be inspired by my actions. We must successfully create parallel social contracts - new kindreds - new clans - new bardic lays - new folk songs - all of it!
Idk, I liked this post a lot and it made me think.
Much appreciated. Have you come across The Kolbrin? You strike me as somebody who would value it. I don't know if it's genuinely historical, but nor is that it's main value. It's often marketed as "The Kolbrin Bible", but this is just a commercial title, and good copies can be found online. Incidentally it outlines some significant connection between the Scots and Welsh clans and purports to tell of their genesis. Mostly it is a book of history (pseudo or actual) and tribal dogma.
I have the Kolbrin Bible downloaded on my computer but I haven't read it yet - Asha Logos mentioned it in one of his videos which piqued my interest. It reminds me of the Oera Linda Book in a way.
However, I would caution against accepting the popular interpretations online, such as on the Hancock site. A few people use its material to bolster certain sci-fi hypotheses. In my view the text does not actually warrant this, and tying it into “planet X” or whatever is a conceit. It does pose many fascinating historical and esoteric questions, not least on the history of the races. I hope you find it valuable, I certainly have. One of the things which I thing lends it credence is the fact that though it relates to many historical anomalies, it does not marry neatly with any “hidden history” I have ever seen, and is kind of messy, like real history tends to be.
I appreciate this Levi. If you have not read the Oera Linda Book, consider this copy. https://oeralinda.org/en/home/ It is the only text that explains why the Corded Ware culture split up into the ensuing Nordic, Celtic, and Germanic cultures. However, many folks dislike it. I like it, but cannot claim it is 1:1 real history... what book ever is though? I think folks who spend a lot of time reading bardic poetry have an easy time playing with such information, seeking after real threads which are buried under poetry, esoterica, and mythology.
If I am interested enough, I may write a book-report on the Kolbrin.
I already wrote some draft and this is the one I wanted the start with. Namely "The fallen state of Hungarian nationhood". That is the one I know best, but obviously speculated that the situation is not better elsewhere.
As a welsh, it must be even more tragic for you as there is not many left around. Still, glad to see that someone is trying to keep the flame alive.
Lately I've been thinking, that there are already no nations left. I was drinking out with a friend who brought someone who has been living in Norway. Don't know how it is with you, but the basic eastern european experience here with people moving abroad who visit the home country is, that everything is better, so vibrant, people from everywhere, they're so much nicer than us etc....you get it.
So obviously we ask that, is there anything, that connects you to this land, to this nation, she could only bring up her cousins. So I said that she too is hungarian, in a name only. (Obviously drama ensued and got accused that I'm denigrating her family blah,blah...)
What I mean is that you did good. Where I'm living right now, there's a statue with the inscription: "Every hungarian is responsible for every hungarian". It is too one of the thoughts I grew up in. Obviously, no need the play the hero every time, but I think it should be important to hold our peers(whether they are elite or working class) to the highest standard. It's not only that I will help you, if you fell on hard times...It would be great if you can be there for me. Imagine that...must be a nice place to live.
I have a deep respect, for the working class of the old. Maybe I wasn't there, but during my endevours I spoke with lot of people and been able to see at least a bit of what made this nation great, despite all the crap going on(the 20th century wasn't kind to us). The sense of community, duty and sacrifice that really made this society worth living in.
I'm not saying that there were no lows during that time. There were many wife beaters back then too. But as I'm quickly approaching my 30s, I see no sense of community in my peers. Everybody is on the grift, the wagemaxing and trampling on others to get higher in the circus. If someone falls on hard times(for any reason), he/she better have a family because nobody else will be there for them.
So yes, hope that we can keep enough nobility, and plant this sentiment to enough people, so we may just have a shoot in the future.
But it’s hard, indeed you must accept death or prison at the outset.
I wouldn’t write off the Republic of Ireland, not the Scots, nor Welsh.
As for the state- the people voted in announced and proudly admitted mortal enemies of their very skin and people for decades because of benefits, the checks, and got exactly the state they voted for…. The people aren’t innocent. Never were. But they are leaderless now, again leaders could rise. They’d have to do what all the rebels in history did, die, kill, go to prison, be pariahs.
You may see something that I don’t, but to my mind the nations themselves are done. The best of their people is another matter; I anticipate that they will cast off the old flags and somehow form a people based initially around principle and common feeling, probably in diasporas at first. Somewhere over the horizon that people will form a new nation which will likely continue a good deal of the old tradition, but will not be geographically the same.
What is happening now is a wave of protest, protest is unfortunately in vain because it addresses an enemy. The state with its political countries is not a neutral domain that can be wrested back to its rightful purpose, it is the nemesis which is intrinsically set against the welfare of the upright. In this sense it is good to live in such precarious times, because though there is no hope of political victory, there is every chance of a general collapse which sets all odds at naught.
Sir - The Eternal Fate of Men is to Fight or Die. That has been forgotten, or rather pretended away. You are quite correct the state is the enemy in this case.
The Irish fought exactly this pirate state for centuries and survived by fighting, for that was their worth. So you can see the way, which is far easier for you as the Leftists likely don’t have your army.
(I’m American of Irish descent and it’s not worth arguing otherwise with me).
If that’s too touchy, look at the greatest startup rebel ever;
Ho Chi Minh. Study mind you how he did it, never mind the ideology.
As for collapse; you’re in it, so are we, prudence suggests at least a few men in a gang are better for when it deteriorates further.
I think that we don't really disagree. My contention is not that men should sit back but that they should struggle with clear eyes not for yesterday's flags but for the continuance of what is more essential. I agree also that the collapse is already upon us, and that solidarity is needed, but our solidarity now naturally dissects us out of the old countries which are too far gone to claim our loyalty. I am Welsh and a little Scots Irish, and I have love of my heritage, but it is not the survival of these nations that animates me, but that which once gave these nations dignity; can't patch old cloth with new.
True enough, but I don’t envisage my countrymen ranging on the side of any noble cause. I wish it were otherwise, and men can surprise you, but every day adds a little evidence that we have few true compatriots.
You should have minded your own business when it was clear she was his SO, that wasn't the first time he abused her, and she is most likely still with him.
As a suggestion, maybe one should consider what 'Holy Mountain' would be the spiritual retreat for such folk, any folk needs both Physical, Mental and Spiritual Retreats so as to 'Ground' themselves in themselves.
I heartily agree, though I don’t see a way of accomplishing such yet. Or rather, I think that only very small groups of aligned folk can hope to sequester places to themselves for now; eventually it will be necessary on a larger scale. I am very interested in the Woodlander project which was featured on Milleniyule.
My Rightward development began with a loathing of chavs. I saw them as symbols for the utter desecration of this once-great nation. I read every Theodore Dalrymple article I could find, for clues as to their provenance & nature.
For years I equated England with either chavs or materialist Mondeo Men. I have since met very decent working class types but they tend to stand out as exceptional. In 2024 they are like inexplicable stone monoliths from some earlier civilisation.
I agree, and have said it for a while now. Our old social contracts are broken. A new one has been written, and we were not included.
I don't think that means we as a people are gone. However we are impotent in nearly every way, and a strong wind could destroy us. I think I see a storm on the horizon ....
I'm not black pilled though, nor a doomer. We will lose land, nations, and people. We will not lose the essence of what makes us different from the other races though. That nobility will arise again - indeed, the lone man fighting a crowd of foreigners, or the lone man defending a random woman, he is just one of the first to step up.
It has to get much worse before it gets better, and we will lose much between now and then.
As my name suggests I'm a Welshman, but I feel of Wales roughly as I feel of Christianity; whatever it once was it is no longer a hopeful vessel. I don't despise it for failing, but what was good in it must be reformed into something new which will not have quite the same shape. I can, for example, see some new birth from Celtic people, but not the survival of each historical nation.
You're right to deny doomerism. My hope is to put my efforts in future into serving the prospect I described in the article; how do we make the individuals which make (or serve) the family lines that will make the new people.
You are thinking about an important issue which very few of us are thinking about today. Most are either dooming out, sticking their heads in the sand, or being very radical. I think we have an amazing tapestry to pull from - my forefathers have been in America for a considerable amount of time yet they never turned from their ancestral heritage, and until quite recently my family dwelt in a heavily Scots populated area of Texas. We retained this identity until it no longer served us - however, it is serving me now, for I have connected with large amounts of folkish people both in America and overseas, and these folks are largely wholesome and traditional. I agree concerning Christianity, and although I do profess to be a pagan, I argue that it is best to have a living faith, not a dead faith purely tied to dead mean and dead things. We should not throw away the tapestry - but we need to clean the threads, fix the holes and tears, and honestly we need to add to it, and fast!!
Not to say this is a solution, but it is a personal tribal/clannish respite, and it has given me a platform to think and speak about the exact issue you are talking about - ethnogenesis. We were once distinct tribes and branches of tribes, but the "melting pot" is destroying us, turning us into something men like you and I despise. How long will this go on?
Sir, you likely have a chance in this life to shift a small amount of noble minds towards something greater. That is the true gift of the bard, for we are geared towards speaking to those noble aristocrats. They are not gone. They are just weak. I have sought some out, and I will keep seeking them out - I am young, and since I am already thinking this way, I am very hopeful! Older men are perhaps on the same page, and my peers who exceed me in areas may be inspired by my actions. We must successfully create parallel social contracts - new kindreds - new clans - new bardic lays - new folk songs - all of it!
Idk, I liked this post a lot and it made me think.
Much appreciated. Have you come across The Kolbrin? You strike me as somebody who would value it. I don't know if it's genuinely historical, but nor is that it's main value. It's often marketed as "The Kolbrin Bible", but this is just a commercial title, and good copies can be found online. Incidentally it outlines some significant connection between the Scots and Welsh clans and purports to tell of their genesis. Mostly it is a book of history (pseudo or actual) and tribal dogma.
I have the Kolbrin Bible downloaded on my computer but I haven't read it yet - Asha Logos mentioned it in one of his videos which piqued my interest. It reminds me of the Oera Linda Book in a way.
A researcher on the Graham Hancock site does a good digest of a few of its themes: https://grahamhancock.com/whitemany1/
However, I would caution against accepting the popular interpretations online, such as on the Hancock site. A few people use its material to bolster certain sci-fi hypotheses. In my view the text does not actually warrant this, and tying it into “planet X” or whatever is a conceit. It does pose many fascinating historical and esoteric questions, not least on the history of the races. I hope you find it valuable, I certainly have. One of the things which I thing lends it credence is the fact that though it relates to many historical anomalies, it does not marry neatly with any “hidden history” I have ever seen, and is kind of messy, like real history tends to be.
I appreciate this Levi. If you have not read the Oera Linda Book, consider this copy. https://oeralinda.org/en/home/ It is the only text that explains why the Corded Ware culture split up into the ensuing Nordic, Celtic, and Germanic cultures. However, many folks dislike it. I like it, but cannot claim it is 1:1 real history... what book ever is though? I think folks who spend a lot of time reading bardic poetry have an easy time playing with such information, seeking after real threads which are buried under poetry, esoterica, and mythology.
If I am interested enough, I may write a book-report on the Kolbrin.
I already wrote some draft and this is the one I wanted the start with. Namely "The fallen state of Hungarian nationhood". That is the one I know best, but obviously speculated that the situation is not better elsewhere.
As a welsh, it must be even more tragic for you as there is not many left around. Still, glad to see that someone is trying to keep the flame alive.
Lately I've been thinking, that there are already no nations left. I was drinking out with a friend who brought someone who has been living in Norway. Don't know how it is with you, but the basic eastern european experience here with people moving abroad who visit the home country is, that everything is better, so vibrant, people from everywhere, they're so much nicer than us etc....you get it.
So obviously we ask that, is there anything, that connects you to this land, to this nation, she could only bring up her cousins. So I said that she too is hungarian, in a name only. (Obviously drama ensued and got accused that I'm denigrating her family blah,blah...)
What I mean is that you did good. Where I'm living right now, there's a statue with the inscription: "Every hungarian is responsible for every hungarian". It is too one of the thoughts I grew up in. Obviously, no need the play the hero every time, but I think it should be important to hold our peers(whether they are elite or working class) to the highest standard. It's not only that I will help you, if you fell on hard times...It would be great if you can be there for me. Imagine that...must be a nice place to live.
I have a deep respect, for the working class of the old. Maybe I wasn't there, but during my endevours I spoke with lot of people and been able to see at least a bit of what made this nation great, despite all the crap going on(the 20th century wasn't kind to us). The sense of community, duty and sacrifice that really made this society worth living in.
I'm not saying that there were no lows during that time. There were many wife beaters back then too. But as I'm quickly approaching my 30s, I see no sense of community in my peers. Everybody is on the grift, the wagemaxing and trampling on others to get higher in the circus. If someone falls on hard times(for any reason), he/she better have a family because nobody else will be there for them.
So yes, hope that we can keep enough nobility, and plant this sentiment to enough people, so we may just have a shoot in the future.
Thank you for the post.
Thankyou for the considered response. Interesting to hear how it applies to other nationalities.
Well you fought, so can others.
But it’s hard, indeed you must accept death or prison at the outset.
I wouldn’t write off the Republic of Ireland, not the Scots, nor Welsh.
As for the state- the people voted in announced and proudly admitted mortal enemies of their very skin and people for decades because of benefits, the checks, and got exactly the state they voted for…. The people aren’t innocent. Never were. But they are leaderless now, again leaders could rise. They’d have to do what all the rebels in history did, die, kill, go to prison, be pariahs.
The will doesn’t seem to be there-
You may see something that I don’t, but to my mind the nations themselves are done. The best of their people is another matter; I anticipate that they will cast off the old flags and somehow form a people based initially around principle and common feeling, probably in diasporas at first. Somewhere over the horizon that people will form a new nation which will likely continue a good deal of the old tradition, but will not be geographically the same.
What is happening now is a wave of protest, protest is unfortunately in vain because it addresses an enemy. The state with its political countries is not a neutral domain that can be wrested back to its rightful purpose, it is the nemesis which is intrinsically set against the welfare of the upright. In this sense it is good to live in such precarious times, because though there is no hope of political victory, there is every chance of a general collapse which sets all odds at naught.
Sir - The Eternal Fate of Men is to Fight or Die. That has been forgotten, or rather pretended away. You are quite correct the state is the enemy in this case.
The Irish fought exactly this pirate state for centuries and survived by fighting, for that was their worth. So you can see the way, which is far easier for you as the Leftists likely don’t have your army.
(I’m American of Irish descent and it’s not worth arguing otherwise with me).
If that’s too touchy, look at the greatest startup rebel ever;
Ho Chi Minh. Study mind you how he did it, never mind the ideology.
As for collapse; you’re in it, so are we, prudence suggests at least a few men in a gang are better for when it deteriorates further.
This is the collapse.
I think that we don't really disagree. My contention is not that men should sit back but that they should struggle with clear eyes not for yesterday's flags but for the continuance of what is more essential. I agree also that the collapse is already upon us, and that solidarity is needed, but our solidarity now naturally dissects us out of the old countries which are too far gone to claim our loyalty. I am Welsh and a little Scots Irish, and I have love of my heritage, but it is not the survival of these nations that animates me, but that which once gave these nations dignity; can't patch old cloth with new.
Uh, dignity like survival must be earned by force.
Well you may have to go to war with what you have… certainly for where you are-
True enough, but I don’t envisage my countrymen ranging on the side of any noble cause. I wish it were otherwise, and men can surprise you, but every day adds a little evidence that we have few true compatriots.
Is survival noble?
Well.
Does it matter?
You should have minded your own business when it was clear she was his SO, that wasn't the first time he abused her, and she is most likely still with him.
As a suggestion, maybe one should consider what 'Holy Mountain' would be the spiritual retreat for such folk, any folk needs both Physical, Mental and Spiritual Retreats so as to 'Ground' themselves in themselves.
Hope that made sense
I heartily agree, though I don’t see a way of accomplishing such yet. Or rather, I think that only very small groups of aligned folk can hope to sequester places to themselves for now; eventually it will be necessary on a larger scale. I am very interested in the Woodlander project which was featured on Milleniyule.